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[Blog] For the Anti-Keaners and Pro-Keaners
Written by superblueflude on Tuesday, 24th Nov 2009 13:39

If you've read my blogs before, you'll know that I am a pro-Keaner, but then again I am also an anti-Keaner in that I don't agree with some of his signings, and I don't expect to be where we are in the league at the moment.

But what is really getting to me is the remarks on here about how the reputation of Town has been dragged down.

Let's look at Keane, a monster of a man in midfield, someone you certainly wouldn't cross, but that's the whole argument, he was a player and was a midfielder, he was a Premiership winner and was a man who gained respect. Notice the main word there is - was!.

I believe a writer in the Comments section on here called Naa said he doesn't respect Keane for his tackle on Alf-Inge Haaland. This guy goes on to say he doesn't like Keane now because of this. Some of you may have red Ged Scott's comments on the Evening Star website, where he says over and over again that we have a man in charge of our club who is hated, doesn't man-manage, he's aggressive etc etc etc.

Now, take the tackle aside, and his playing career - what has Keane actually done during his management reign to prove to people that he is in fact a nasty piece of work? Not speaking to Jordan Rhodes, you'll say - Sorry that's just paper talk, not talking to Garvan you say -again paper talk. Doesn't take training - which is weird as I have seen him there.

His press conferences make him look aggressive as he is asked the same stupid questions and if I was manager I would also answer them the same way. Does anyone call Sir Alex Ferguson a mentalist for the way he gets angry? No, do they call Harry Rednapp names when he loses it about penalties? No.

For me Keane can't win. People assume that he walked out on Sunderland as he cracked. Why? He was being hounded on by the owners, so for me he did the right thing. How many of us have quit a job because of either staff bullying or management being pushy?

All the people that question his man-management skills - where is your evidence to prove that he hasn't got any? Ah yeah, callumgarryskeemer (regular Comments poster) will come on a say he dropped both Wrights for no reason, dropped Garvan for no reason and this shows that he doesn't care about those players as he let them play with the youths.

But look David Wright and Owen Garvan now, back in the first team with hunger - I have never seen Garvan run around as much as he did on Saturday.

For me I think he has managed Garvan and David Wright well. Garvan is a Championship player and that's all, no higher no lower. All that he needed was a kick to maintain some form which he let go.

Before you all get all anti-Keane and call me names for being pro-Keane let me get one thing straight. I am not pro-Keane I am pro-Ipswich and I feel that the only way to get the Town to where we want them to be is to support them and that means supporting the team, the manager the owner and the tea lady.

And quit moaning about the hoofball, for me we played a bit of hoofball on Saturday but mainly played it along the floor. If you want entertainment week-in, week-out - go and watch Arsenal, who can afford to buy players that can do it week-in, week-out.

Forget where we are, forget who our manager is, his past or his future and concentrate on the team whoever plays, no matter who's dropped. Let's concentrate on talking about how the players can improve things - afte rall a football team is not only about the manager, players have to play as well.

So Callum, Naa and other critics, I do agree with certain things you say, and yes I may accept that Keane may not be the best choice of manager, but, right now he is so let's get behind everyone.




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goldenblueboy added 14:18 - Nov 24
callumgarryskeemer = tw4t!!!
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FormerlyCGS added 14:25 - Nov 24
goldenboyblue I think your 4 is meant to be an A??????
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BeattiesBeerGut added 14:28 - Nov 24
Sensible post ..broadly in agreement.
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Hinesy_itfc1 added 14:29 - Nov 24
Cracking blog, really good points proven. callumgarryskeemer doesnt seem to be so popular, hahaa. BLUE ARMY! COYB!
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FormerlyCGS added 14:35 - Nov 24
YEah goldenboyblue im a bit of a face on here, i'd watch out
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tort63 added 14:36 - Nov 24
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. This website is currently being spoilt by a few narrow-minded individuals who are incapable of forming a structured argument and spend far too much time chucking petty insults at anybody who dares to hold an alternative point of view. Until we go back to having the News Section for News alone and get all this petty infighting and blogging onto the Forum where it belongs then this website offers very little credibility to the occasional browser.
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depressed added 14:37 - Nov 24
Agree 100% superbluefiude
Some people will never like him regardless of what he does.
Their opionion..NOT MINE
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superblueflude added 14:40 - Nov 24
Tort - I don't agree with you there - None of the blogs that I have written have added any insults to anyone - in any shape.
And Tort - how can news be your main reason for coming on here? most of news (with Respect to Phil lol, are stories coming from alternative newspapers - which are then written on here to obtain our thoughts, the same as our blogs.
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FormerlyCGS added 14:55 - Nov 24
Depressed - that aint the case at all if we was winning games I would love him, as I am sure everyone else would.

But while we are 2nd bnottom and palying p*ss poor week in week out i will continue to write such things as


KEANE OUT
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naa added 15:03 - Nov 24
Oi! I take offence at being named specifically. Especially as I've never made any such comment.

I have recently referred to the tackle as cowardly, but I attributed no opinion about how it affects my view of him now.

I have only one issue with Keane - the current team! We are not playing well, not getting results and are near the bottom of the table.

I disagree with your statements about Wright and Garvan, but that's personal opinion, so fair enough. Though I do like the fact that we can't comment on rumour and speculation about Garvan etc yet you do exactly that when justifying Keane's departure from Sunderland. There are a lot of rumours about that, not least the one that they simply wanted him to move to within a few hundred miles of Sunderland - which he refused (something he now insists upon from his players. What a hypocrite)

I have never said I want Keane out, I have only said that I think we should be worried about where we are going. How much longer to we have to wait for this great run of results you keep promising us superblueflude? Wake up and smell the coffee, as they say.

I also have a big problem with people blindly thinking Keane is a good manager. The simple fact is that he is unproven and had one good season.

Let's not forget that Bryan Robson got Boro promoted twice when he had a decent budget to spend, and kept WBA in the Prem and was also a fantastic player. I doubt anyone here thinks that he's a good manager, so why the Keane love?
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naa added 15:05 - Nov 24
Do agree with you about Tort though super. TWTD is a fanzine for fan opinion. It's not an ITFC news site.

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jonf added 15:14 - Nov 24
Agreed, Garvan looked like he was really up for it against Sheff Wed. I'd say that his time out of the team probably gave him the kick up the arse he needed to fight for his place, and hopefully we'll see more of the same this Sunday.
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Lightningboy added 15:27 - Nov 24
Would so many of you be defending the manager if he was just an "ordinary Joe" with a record of 1 win in 17?

I doubt it.
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Surco72 added 15:28 - Nov 24
Superflude all you do is speculate about what will happen as you have done for weeks "when we go on a run, when we move up the league " which i again commend you on for your belief and i hope you are right ,but we have just come out of two months of on paper easier fixtures (i know you are going to say anyone can beat anyone in this league and there are no easy games ) but the table and the form table do not lie and these were winnable games ,and we still only have 1 win and are still in the bottom two, the fixtures are only getting harder again now .
Playing entertaining football is nothing to do with money it is how the team is coached,and anyway we have spent a lot of money for this league so your theory falls down there.
And surely not every paper report or players views or ex players views of Keane can be made up ?
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superblueflude added 15:32 - Nov 24
Naa - didn't mean to offend, I know we have both shared our opinions, and im not saying Keanes a good manager, to be fair he's awful - but having said that there are improvements in the side, we just need to start climbing - if we do i wont be saying hes god hes great etc i will be happy that my team are doing well, i dont care who our manager is what hes done, what he does as long as we as a team stay commited to the cause and thats not just wins or success just performances of hard work and commitment.
As for the Keane leaving - I understand and can see where you'r coming from but all parties involved including Quinn himself had come out and said that he had put more pressure on Keane - thats why I see it is to much pressure for a manage to handle - overall though, i love ths site, i love the comments i love the banter - but I dont like personal abuse which I know you dont do but others on here do.
Any way i'm happy with a point against Cardiff - im sure any team would be away and possibly 3 points against Bristol but if not - then 2 draws but a must win at home the following game -no less is excepted
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lilian3415 added 15:33 - Nov 24
Re D Wright & Garvan - absolute rubbish.
If thats the case lets drop the whole team for the whole season - they'll come back as supermen, win the premier league & the champions league.
As said many times we are not anti-Keane - we are pro Ipswich.
Keane has wasted more money on rubbish players than anyone else in the Championship and has cost us loads of points with rubbish selections. The reputation and standing of the team will inevitably suffer the longer this man is in charge.


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Dubzy_69 added 15:38 - Nov 24
Good blog and some fair comments!
Keano all the way!!
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AJblue added 15:57 - Nov 24
Tend to agree with the blog in most areas.
Its all about supporting Ipswich no matter what,thats our "job" as supporters.

Lightningboy,just to answer your question, in my case and i suspect many others...YES.
We would support OUR manager, whoever he was.
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SitfcB added 16:02 - Nov 24
CGK.....Im suprised you have access to a computer at school all day!!
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sonian_blue added 16:17 - Nov 24
CGK dont you mean a farce?
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naa added 16:18 - Nov 24
injuredanimal: what do you mean by support? By that do you mean blindly defend every decision he makes regardless of results, or logic?

If so, fair enough but that seems crazy to me.

If you just mean not booing at the game then yes, I agree with that.
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AJblue added 16:28 - Nov 24
naa, bit of both really.
Dont know how long yoy have supported Town, doesnt really matter, but i have seen ups and downs over the years,and whatever has happened off or on the pitch i have been there, and been proud to call myself an Ipswich supporter.

Dont hyave to agree with everything that Keane does (and i dont) but its his choice as manager, he will live or die by those decisions, and whatever the outcome, i strongly believe that 1)i will be here long after Mr Keane, and 2) so will Ipswich Town Football Club.
In the meantime i will support Ipswich "my way" and feel a certain a certain anger to those who boo and jeer my beloved team, whether it be at PR or on here.
Hope that makes my position clear.
(ps dont disagree with your posts all the time, just some, but what i do respect is you seem to be passionate about our club and always seem to try to be balanced and thoughtful in your comments)...(unlike some...no names mentioned to protect the innocent) lol
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Lightningboy added 16:41 - Nov 24
Ok,where was this support last season for Jim?..remember those days when we were in the top 10 , just outside the play-offs & people couldn't wait to turn on him at every opportunity?

And don't give me the usual "we weren't playing good football" cos what we're getting this season is a lot lot worse..consistently worse.
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naa added 16:50 - Nov 24
injuredanimal: don't disagree with a single thing you said just there.

Depends what you mean by boo or jeer on here really. I have my opinions about many of Keane's management decisions so far and I come on here to voice those opinions with other Town fans - and we are all Town fans, whatever some may claim. IQ doesn't come into how good a fan you are ;-).

I don't consider that to be a lack of support for the club or team, just worried about where our manager is currently taking us and wanting to share that with others (I don't get out as much as I used to!)
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AJblue added 16:52 - Nov 24
Seems you keep asking questions i feel compelled to answer.
(and from your other post,if you cant do better than use "the old Norwich fan" thing, dont bother!)
I like most of the fans around me, still supported Jim up to the end.I didnt think we were playing particularly good football, but as far as i was concerned he was Ipswich's manager, and hence worthy of my support...much like Keane now.
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